I strongly recommend that this page be reverted back to its prior state. Just because you don't like what happened, Alpha, does not mean you have to get rid of it all. — Chris 2011/09/14 23:48

I agree. Just leave a note that this war was not recognized as legitimate by AlphaBernd. — Sikandar 2011/09/14 23:51

Why does it say that the Coalition suffered zero casualties? I defeated Sikandar despite him illegally using a diamond sword. It wasn't until I left the server that the babbymen Kurwans attacked Breshik. — jogiff 2011/09/16 11:03

YOU WANT PROOF OF CONSENT? HERE'S YOUR FUCKING PROOF OF CONSENT

[02:37] <CraftIRC> (Shakomatic) eastern standard time
[02:37] <CraftIRC> (Sikandar) Batt.x has already declared war and does not recognize Shakos new amendments to the charter
[02:37] <CraftIRC> (Shakomatic) where all resolutions can be voiced
[02:37] <CraftIRC> (Shakomatic) thats not possible sik
[02:37] <CraftIRC> (Shakomatic) under the AN charter
[02:38] <CraftIRC> (Shakomatic) all nations not present submit a vote of yes
[02:38] <CraftIRC> (Sikandar) Try and stop me Shako, I'm going rogue
[02:38] <CraftIRC> (jogiff) quorum more like Boredom
[02:38] <CraftIRC> (Shakomatic) you therefore approved the vote for An takeover of Batthorkistan already
[02:38] <CraftIRC> (Shakomatic) jogiff
[02:38] <CraftIRC> (jogiff) Hmmm?
[02:38] <CraftIRC> (Shakomatic) batt.x has gone rouge
[02:38] <CraftIRC> (jogiff) Are they attacking?
[02:38] <CraftIRC> (Shakomatic) they are now an enemy of the Holy Alphan Empire\\

How is that proof of consent? That is proof that you declared war on the An.

It legally recognized War with Battkhortostan which was the first power to declare war on Breshik, therefore legitimizing the Foreign intervention against Breshik - YugoTexas

Also he declared Battkhortostan a rogue state under article 9 him self further legitimizing the war

[02:22] <CraftIRC> (Shakomatic) sikander
[02:22] <CraftIRC> (Shakomatic) you do realize
[02:22] <Sikandar> wut
[02:22] <CraftIRC> (Shakomatic) i did not violte artilce nine
[02:23] <CraftIRC> (Shakomatic) article nine outlaws a rouge nation attacking a AN member state
[02:23] <Sikandar> Well then, Battkhortostan simply declares war on Breshik\\

Once again, that doesn't imply consent in any way. It's just you declaring war. And how is he declaring article 9 against Battkhortostan? He's saying that Breshik didn't violate it.

Rosenmanns proof that Shakomatics resolutions didn't pass

When Shakomatic gave his proposal for resolution, i wrote “0/10 - Rosenmann” This responce can be treated as a disapproval, and since I am representative of Empire, and since Kurwa is veto holder, this resolution couldn't pass.

Sorry for such formating but something is fucked up

thats bullshit

You were not even online

Your mom is bullshit

I wrote it on the wiki

lol “wrote it on the wiki” lets get a link lets get a date and timestamp. Lets see that you voted and are not simply lieing because you are mad someon abused the charter you agreed to. Maybe you shouldnt have agreed to such shit. food for thought.

The page got deleted so sadly I can't gibe the proof. But you know that I wrote it so stfu already.

WAR DECLARED LEGAL

Session Time: Tue Sep 13 00:00:00 2011
[02:41] <CraftIRC> (Sikandar) I've resecured AN headquarters
[02:41] <CraftIRC> (jogiff) That is war, sikander

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Shako I hope you enjoy the fact you appointed Jogiff to be Breshik's Representative to the AN

Rebuttal

a) You have misinterpreted my remark, I was informing Sikandar that attacking AN headquarters is an act of war, not that Breshik was immediately or necessarily going to war against Batt.x b) I (jogiff) do not have the power to declare war for the nation of Breshik any more than Susan Rice has the power to declare war for the United States c) jogiff is not capitalized, how would you feel if I started calling you Kosotexas, hmmm? It would hurt to constantly be called the wrong name

[01:54] (jogiff) Hey, Shako
[01:54] (Shakomatic) hey jogiff
[01:55] (Shakomatic) i am appointing you official ambassador to the AN from breshik
[01:55] (jogiff) Shweet

LATER

[02:41] (Sikandar) I've resecured AN headquarters
[02:41] (Shakomatic) r states due to a faulty charter
[02:41] (jogiff) That is war, sikander
[02:41] (Sikandar) Come at me bro
[02:41] (Shakomatic) the nation o batthorkistan declares war on sikander

LATER

[02:41] <@AlphaBernd> shak you did not follow the charter with your vote…
[02:41](Shakomatic) yes we did
[02:41] <@AlphaBernd> therefore it was illegal and does not count
[02:42] (Shakomatic) jogiff was the voting ambassador from breshik

As a result

Alpha has recognized the war due to the declarations made by Shako as King of Breshik that you represented Breshik, and due to the recognized fact on the international stage that a Ambassador's word in his capacity as ambassador is as good as gold legally unless his Nations rebukes his statement in a reasonable time frame which Breshik never did

A) I didn't declare war, I told Sik that he was committing an act of war. B) When I attacked Sikandar it was an act of self-defense in what seemed to be an attack C) Shako immediately told me that fighting in the AN was not allowed and kicked me out of the building, constituting an obvious rejection of any war

No, the logs show he kicked you out for fighting on the premises of the AN Complex as self declared secreatry of the AN, not for declaring war

That's because I didn't declare war. If I had declared war (which, despite your assertions otherwise, I didn't) and he condoned it, he would have supported me fighting against someone invading what was essentially Breshik territory.

No he stated he kicked you out for fighting inside the AN building which is supposed to be neutral regardless of any state of war, with it only being a 24 hour removal, and if he didn't condone you declaring war why did he follow it up by declaring war on Sikandar as leader of Battkhortostan? As with the rest, the cases you are giving are very weak when faced with your own words, but we shall see on the First of October. -YugoTexas

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