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Official time and date: Saturday, 30 June at 16:30:00 GMT/UTC Be there or at least have a good excuse why you're not there.

Click http://goo.gl/WjiLi to see precise potato time in your timezone. As a mayor of Eisenbach, I declare that Eisenbach is neutral in Mongols wars, and Eisenbach will not officially fight in this war. However, I grant every citizen of Eisenbach (including myself) right to freely choose side of conflict. Thank you for attention. –Rosenmann

not native citizen
mayor
implying you know better
implying I am not second or third citizen of Eisenbach
fug off

ebin served

Sorry guys I can't take part in the battle. Connection in the countryside is too crappy. t: merelej

This is for the post battle discussions and shit

Does anyone want to do statistics, I have logs. I'll probably get around to it in a day or two. Though if someone wants to jump the gun and do it be my guest. Also Soviet-GAM forces please add any relevant info or make anything more neutral. I tried my best but I still think I have a bit of a biased — green kitten 2012/06/30 21:04

Does anybody have a list of the players who took part in the battle? Here is mine, but it's probably incomplete or wrong.

Mongols and supporters: Greenkitten, kovio, Striker2117, mazznoff, BlakkCooper, Omaar, Kopfjaegar, Blub_2000AD, areteee, _glo, tomklash, Hansbliebdo
GAM and supporters: MystiaLorelei, Tefal, Rosenmann, ultimateshadow96, Saldalphon, Doooom560, Buddel_Uli, Znowc0ne, Enton, klemen, Sturmtiger

Enton 2012/06/30 22:34

Please read

I don't think any of the cheatings was intended. It was simply a result of confusion and reactions to other cheatings. Since most people wanted to fight a fair battle and were severely disappointed when two persons single-handedly decided that all rules were off, I think only another battle with Bremen rules can solve the butthurt. I am however ready to accept your victory if you accept ours at the Battle of the Desert since it was also a result of confusion. I agree with V1ad that both nations lost the battle, end of discussion.

Also, the lag was severe, which contributed to the confusion. A lawful battle was almost impossible under these circumstances. — Enton 2012/06/30 22:44

KOVIO'S LIST

Mongols and supporters: Greenkitten, kovio, Striker2117, mazznoff, BlakkCooper, Omaar, Kopfjaegar, Blub_2000AD, areteee, _glo, tomklash, Hansbliebdo, Makise_Kurisu
GAM and supporters: MystiaLorelei, Tefal, Rosenmann, ultimateshadow96, Saldalphon, Doooom560, Buddel_Uli, Znowc0ne, Enton, klemen, Sturmtiger

These are the people I had down on the mongol chests in the fort: Greenkitten Kovio _glo Omaar tomklash Hansbliebdo Kopfjaegar BlakkCooper mazznoff Jam_tin_jack striker2117 Makise_kurisu areteee Blub_2000AD

And as far as I am concerned we won the battle, you didn't even get close to the fort, your camp was taken and we got many more kills than you. I think v1ad called the battle off and said no one won because Mystia and Sturmtiger were flooding the chat with butthurt and just wanted everyone to shut up. I mean if no mods or anything stepped in and we just looked at the data you guys were steamrolled. I'm just thinking you can't accept defeat and thus keep whining and forcing your false point about it being a draw. I mean for the '2 largest nations on the server' (your words not mine) to be outnumbered in a battle would be devastating enough, but losing horribly is unacceptable and the only way you can save face is for the battle to be a draw or uncounted. — green kitten 2012/07/01 07:17

I am not denying that your forces were clearly superior this time and I would have recognized your victory if no cheating occurred. But this wasn't the battle we agreed to have since the rules WE BOTH CHOSE AND PROMISED TO KEEP were broken. So since the battle wasn't fought under the terms confirmed by both sides before, it shouldn't be called “lawful”. Also no battle on the 14th as suggested before, I won't be there. The next possible date for me would be the 28th.

As far as I know, Jam_tin_jack wasn't even close to the battlefield, so I don't know if he counts. Btw, we had way more chests than warriors because the majority of the Commies didn't even show up. Cowards. I knew there would be massive autism and that's why I didn't want to join the battle first, but I just wanted to fill in because we obviously needed help (and yes, I failed). — Enton 2012/07/01 13:18

Don't blame the failings of your alliance as your downfall, even if you were slightly outnumbered you still got no where near the fort and couldn't even leave your camp. It was a flawless victory for the Nazi-Mongol alliance and I don't see why we can't count this as our victory when at Gorask both teams cheated and it still goes towards your tally. If this doesn't count towards our wins then I don't think Gorask should either. Also Jam_tin_jack stayed in the fort mainly, though he did comeout and made use of some TNT. And I guess he caused some damage but failed to kill anyone. He was decked in armour and was there providing support so I would still count him as much as anyone else. — green kitten 2012/07/01 14:58

We managed to push you to the rails at some point, and even further to the fort, I even killed one or two mongols near the fort, therefore your argument is invalid Kitten.— Rosenmann

The scoreboard doesn't ask you how you kicked the goals, its the end result that matters. You might have pushed some mongols away from your camp, but this battle wasn't a seige of our fort at all, it was just you guys getting your asses handed to you the entire time. You were surrounded the whole time, if any of you had made it into the fort during the battle I would think about conceding, but you were barely able to escape your camp. All you can do now is whine to the mods about cheating and get the battle declared a draw because you lost so terribly. I don't blame you guys for complaining, I mean we had a bit of a winge after Gorask. Maybe in a week or so you'll be able to accept your defeat in this battle. — green kitten 2012/07/02 11:21

Well, people like kovio don't really contribute to a fair battle, for example by attacking and killing our players before the battle. On the other hand, we could have won this if we concentrated on the battle. And yes, I wasn't prepared very well. — Enton 2012/07/02 14:56

Well don't build on our lands next to the fort, we didn't suddenly build a base in the middle of your town when we invaded Gorask. We wouldn't've cared if you built bridges or ladders to scale the walls of the fort, we made this perfectly clear. But I agree that him killing Buddel in Eienkyo before the battle wasn't called for, but that guy has been harassing us ever since he joined the server, I don't blame kovio for killing him. Also even if you did concentrate on the battle you wouldn't have won, you guys didn't have desu with his hacks fighting for you this time. — green kitten 2012/07/02 15:56

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