Complainant: areteee
Defendant: venomthrope

On March 3rd 2013 areteee's, who is part of the nazi-mongol-alliance, killed PPA at spawn area. Without any request or formal complaint venomthrope decided to ban areteee saying that spawn area was neutral.

However:
1) Venom did not see the “killing”
2) The logs state that PPA died of fire - fire arrows are very powerful indeed
3) Even if areteee had killed PPA since they are at war it might have been legal if it had happened somewhere else
4) There is no positive rule stating that new spawn is a neutral area, although this fact is actually unquestioned. Only formally, venomthrope might have banned without a rule
5) Even if there was such a rule, it would have had to specify what is defined as “spawn” and how large the neutral
“area” is, furthermore what “neutral”, “area” or “defined” even means.
Summarizing: spawns are neutral, but it doesn't mean you can't kill there anyone. 6) In the end venomthrope did not once justify the ban, nor did he reply to any complaints at all.
7) The ban was considered too short by many other players [citation needed].

Areteee claims that venomthrope violated basic principles such as in dubio pro reo, nulla poena sine lege, the need for a formal complaint to be filled[Mods do not need a formal complaint. They can, and do, judge on e.g. griefing without a complaint all the time.], refused to justify his ban a second time because he already named a reason.

Since the ban has already expired and justice was done, the admin should prevent actual and potential mod abuse, instead of dealing with this complaint.

<autism> 4P_P_A burned to death
<autism> <venomthrope> huehuehue
<autism> <xMarkuz> would you like cane for anything else?
<autism> <P_P_A> asshole
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<autism> <P_P_A> nah, it's fine
<autism> 14[P_P_A disconnected]
<Tangaloa> .players
<autism> 14Online (9/89): Logitec147 Rosenmann RuBarafag areteee ifcfg mechmind muffin venomthrope xMarkuz
<PPA> Isn't the spawn a neutral area anyway
<autism> <venomthrope> yes
<autism> <xMarkuz> yes
<autism> <Logitec147> Rage Quit :P
<Tangaloa> rosenmann apologise to alphabernd
<autism> <areteee> there is no such rule
<autism> <venomthrope> was it aretee
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<autism> 14[Rosenmann disconnected]
<autism> <venomthrope> ppa did areteee be of murderings you
<PPA> How is it a rage quit if I briefly hopped on to give xmarkuz a stack of bread, do that, and then sign back off
<autism> <areteee> he burned to death couldnt you read
<PPA> He did
<autism> <venomthrope> bannu
<autism> <areteee> you have no proof
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<autism> <venomthrope> huehue
<PPA> I think he's part of K_Chris's alliance
<autism> <areteee> yeah I am
<autism> <areteee> so it would be legal even if I did kill you
<PPA> It was at spawn though
<PPA> I don't know what the rules say about that
<autism> <areteee> show me wiki rule that spawn is neutral
<PPA> Enton said it a few days ago
<autism> <areteee> so?
<PPA> I don't know what that counts
<PPA> whatever
<autism> <areteee> enton cant just make up rules like he pleases
<autism> 14[ifcfg disconnected]
* PPA goes back to building church towers
<autism> [areteee was KICKED (You have been banned by venomthrope 04Reason: dat spawn murderings4Until: Feb 3, 2013 1:14:52 PM)]
<autism> 14[areteee disconnected]
<autism> <xMarkuz> lolwhy
<autism> <xMarkuz> oh
<areteee> dat mod abuse
<autism> <xMarkuz> I c
<areteee> unban or ill fill wiki complaint
<areteee> show me rule
<areteee> I didnt break any positive rule
<areteee> you cant just make up rules**

<areteee> you agreed to state of war so naturally you have to deal with it
<PPA> which I do
<areteee> you asked for a ban for me
<areteee> sure is dealing with it
<PPA> I didn't
<areteee> then why am I banned
<PPA> 07[12:42:14] <autism> 01<P_P_A> asshole
<PPA> 02[12:42:42] <PPA> 01Isn't the spawn a neutral area anyway
<PPA> That's all I said on the matter
<areteee> oh wow so i got banned even though nobody complained
<areteee> fucking venomthrope
<areteee> so I got banned for something that was legal and nobody had complained about it
<PPA> for thirty minutes, yes
<Vexxx> the time doesnt matter
<areteee> ^
<Vexxx> its something called principle
<Vexxx> and obeying the rules
<areteee> no there is symbolic ban for a few seconds
<areteee> but 30 minutes isnt a few seconds