On the 8th of August 2013, PPA banned me ( [[people:areteee|areteee]] ) "pre-emptively"(sic). I want to appeal this ban and ask for admin intervention since I believe this to be a breach of the [[decisions:server-law|rules]].
Joe
its happening
no more russians
tell me a good name for an anti russian pact
we need to gather our powers
and strike at them
since I will go to bed soon and won't be there to protect the cirnos
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I think I'm just gonna ban you pre-emptively
lol
I probably wont do anything
>pre-emptively
14[Erenzilable1 connected]
thats against the rules
just until the morning, when I am awake again
14[P_P_A connected]
ill complain in wiki
>mod bans me for nothing
oh wow
14[P_P_A disconnected]
sure is sticking to the rules eh
Lol
It's not like you ever play anyway
I have not broken any rules, this ban is solely on the vague possibility of me potentially attacking other players. There are no rules stating that a pre-emptive ban is possible. Therefore this ban is against the server law ( [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nulla_poena_sine_lege|nulla poena sine lege]] ).
When confronted with this fact the conversation developed as follows:
te3 PPA banned me "pre-emptively"
I don't think this is a legitimate way to do things
for a few hours, until I get up again
since I can't protect the cirnos in my sleep
you ban me for nothing
the rules dont work like this
I'm banning you for hate speech
and incitement to murder
>hate speech >bannable
laughinggirls.jpeg
when did you join? yesterday?
implying hate speech isnt encouraged here
I sincerely regret supporting you, you dont give a shit about the rules
only mazznoff remains
if I kill these niggers and get banned its my choice
why dont you just ban everyone they could go against the rules
hurr durr
The CIrnos are wimpy cowards, and if you kill them without anyone banning you immediately afterwards, they might be scared and leave the server
you cant ban me if I havent done anything wrong
it doesnt work like that
you know it
I can't? But I just did
then record the ban
in the list
so I can appeal it
or are you going to ban someone without documenting it?
like enton
by the time the appeal is through it'll have expired anyway
I dont care
also yeah, I banned three people recently and was too lazy to document it
I ask [[orders_and_guilds:orders:order_of_the_staff|the staff]] to assist me in my time of need as I believe myself to be the victim of actual [[memes:mod_abuse|mod abuse]]. I ask for the removal of my ban and if that is not possible anymore possible compensation and in any case admin intervention to prevent future rule breaching by PPA. Surely it is my choice if I commit actions that may bring a ban and its obvious that nobody should be banned without ever having committed a bannable offense. Lastly I want to point to the fact that PPA refuses to add this ban to the [[decisions:bans|ban list]] even though he formerly insisted that Enton does this and even unbanned players for not doing it.
I sincerely hope my problems will be resolved.
--- areteee 08/08/2013
This preceded the above conversations:
!news The russian invasion is getting out of hand. I call on all fellow autists to take up arms and declare war on these uncivilised bastards. If they do not respond to words there is only steel and blood left.
<@gbt> success
!news Bremen declares war on Cirno nation, casus belli is constantly spamming russian in chat.
<@gbt> success
<@PPA> !news Famous IRC lurker areteee declares war on a nation that doesn't exist!
<@gbt> success
it does
they just havent written a wiki article about it
<@PPA> when did they declare nationhood
it doesnt matter
I declare war anyway
fuck you
<@PPA> No wiki page, no nation, simple as that
I will treat them as a nation
and act accordingly
<@PPA> If you kill any Cirno, I'll ban you.
a price I'll pay if I can get rid of these pests
why dont you suck some more russian cock
there's a limit to speaking some foreign language
they cross it
<@PPA> not according to te3
learn the rules
te3 doesnt know shit about the rules
<@PPA> The rules are whatever te3 says are the rules
no
<@PPA> and te3 is fine with Russian being a main server language
the rules exist independently of some bavarian MILF
its common law since the old days
make dealings
I'll enforce the rules myself
and destroy these infidels
t. P.P.A.
Here is another addition:
besides, this is about banning before commit a bannable offense
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you cant seriously believe this is legitimate
where in the server law does it state that this is allowed
It's not legitimate
>>>>>>
then its mod abuse
but I want to deal with your shit at reasonable times and not for a bunch of players to be scared off by your antics
yeah it is
deal with it
no, I wont
t. areteee
Knowing areteee he would indeed have invaded the Cirnos and scared half of them away. I think it would've meant a much longer ban for areteee, had he gone through with his plan. If you get my drift.\\
I won't demod or ban anybody here, but don't let this be a precedent. --- //[[te3@irc.dev-urandom.eu|tetete]] 2013/08/09 11:01//\\
PS: The Cirnos don't bother anybody who isn't a total buttautist, let them speak russian.